
Yesterday, I began thinking about a topic that’d never really occurred to me before:
At what point does ‘getting to know you time’ with someone of the opposite sex morph into ‘just friends?’
Is it necessary that someone exhibit explicit romantic intentions from the get-go?
And most importantly, in what time frame do you need to get things heated up before becoming permanently platonic?
My only experience with these kinds of issues occurred with a male friend of mine we’ll call Grin. Grin was, and still is, the human result of what my ideal cooked up man would be like as far as looks, nationality, personality, and intelligence. Unfortunately, a lesser version of Grin, Mr. Grey, commanded all my emotional attention at the time – so while I was interested in Grin, I felt like I had enough on my man-plate, and never really got into it. Nevertheless, we’d meet up as friends, hang out and one another’s houses, and occasionally party together.
Then we started helping each other out with some business ventures and it became clear that our relations heading anywhere near the world of intimacy would be highly inappropriate.
Then he seemed too attractive. Untouchable. It’s like when you can appreciate a piece of artwork while having no desire to buy it. At a certain point, the romantic tension snapped and ceased existing.
Then we crossed that line and started telling each other about our love lives. For Grin, his obsession with this woman named Giulia who only lived in New York part time and who I saw as painstakingly average and uninteresting. For me, my rocky relationship with Mr. Grey, who he also knew.
The moment that our rubber band of romantic tension didn’t just snap, but got swept under the rug and forgotten, was when I met Giulia. Grin had made me aware that the woman he liked would be coming out with our group of friends that night. I chit-chatted with Giulia at the bar for twenty minutes thinking the entire time that Grin’s wonder woman had yet to arrive. It never occurred to me that my ‘perfect’ man would be interested in a woman who could be categorized as average. I expected a Giselle look-alike to saunter through the door.
This is when attraction didn’t just die, but got murdered and stepped on.
Men: I don’t think you realize how much other women define you by the woman you have on your arm. Shallow, but true.
It’s like when one of your male friends is dating a poll dancer with acrylics. You think – “Oh! That’s what he’s looking for? Really?” His stock plummets in a crash that’s impossible to recover from. You’ll never look at him the same way again.
When I saw that Grin’s obsession was a clearly very nice, but not an attractive, employable or exceedingly interesting woman, his transformation into ‘normal guy’ instead of ‘guy of my dreams’ was complete. Who am I to judge her? Giulia may be a fantastic individual, she just wasn’t what I was expecting.
Grin and I are close friends to this day, yet I still stop to wonder if we could’ve been the incredible power couple that exists in my mind. We were both attracted to one another, but somehow we missed the romantic boat. It’s like we had tickets for the cruise but ended up running around the marina lost for six hours. The timing was off and I guess my initial statements query if there’s a concrete time frame is for love.
Two weeks?
Two months?
Who makes the first move?
And why is making that move after you’ve got to know each other so much scarier than making a move with someone who you’re just lusting after?
I guess because when you’ve come to know and appreciate one another, there’s so much more at stake. Sometimes so much at stake that you’d rather keep the person in your life as a friend as opposed to losing them in a romantic tragedy.
Obviously, you want to get to know each other first.
Obviously, you don’t want to get to know each other so well that the thought of kissing the other person feels like incest.






September 12th, 2008 at 3:44 pm
I’m a big believer in “The 10 date rule.” Worked for me, anyhoo!
September 12th, 2008 at 11:40 pm
okay, you two need to have different colours of text so i can sort out who is talking…
secondly-i had been reading caj’s blog, and switched here, with my mind still on caj… so, when i started reading about mr’s, i freaked a little bit.
last-i have no idea. i have had friendships go to friends with benefits, destroying the friendship… and the man i adore has only kissed me once… i patiently wait for it to move further.
no idea what any of this has to do with the entire situation, i’m still in utah, and blathering.
September 13th, 2008 at 10:43 am
“Men: I don’t think you realize how much other women define you by the woman you have on your arm.”
I’m not an expert in female psychology, so I’ve got a couple questions.
Why would dating a woman of average looks would be a turn off–wouldn’t it mean you see beyond outer beauty and be a good thing?
Also, wouldn’t a Giselle simply have caused all the women present to feel insecure and created the same reaction as the poll dancer?
September 13th, 2008 at 12:11 pm
It’s the dirty dirty trick of attraction. Often I’ve encountered terribly perfect women and found myself unnattracted for one reason or another. Then I’ll run across some random decent-looking, but below-my-standards, girl that excites lust in me that I can barely reign in. I’ve learned to cope with this over time, but life would be too simple if we could establish a standard time of romantic attraction.
By way of suggestion, I say go on no more than three dates. There are too many options and too much romantic frustration to be had by docking in one harbor for longer than absolutely necessary. But make sure to hold onto the map to that dock just in case.
September 15th, 2008 at 5:59 am
Hey dude. Met you tonight at the house. Here’s my blog!
nycnewgirl.wordpress.com
Talk to you later!
(names have been omitted to protect the innocent.)
September 17th, 2008 at 7:07 pm
“Men: I don’t think you realize how much other women define you by the woman you have on your arm.”
HAHA! Finally a woman admits this. We are ALL so shallow that the very few unique ones like us get lost in the bright light materialistic shuffle!
I hope every guy and girl reads this article because the mistake happens on both ends. It is better to have some balls and go for it than not try at all. At the very least, she will know that you are a “Dangerous Man” and I can live with that title…. she’ll definitely know what she’s getting into should you guys decide to hang out again under these new “rules”. Be sure to wear protection.
September 18th, 2008 at 11:02 pm
Blog_owner, give us an update on this one. I just realized that he may be doing something I do. Sometimes a guy sees something really fun or physical in a girl, especially those plain girl types where you are just REALLY CURIOIS to see how good they are in bed and what that whole experience is like. You don’t see them as potentials though. If he isn’t the kind of guy who plays the field a lot then this probably isn’t him.
lisa - that 10date rule is nutz!! confidence issues maybe? Are you a cancer?